craigwalsh
10-30-2006, 04:39 PM
I wrote elsewhere (http://www.sucks.org.uk/?cat=6&paged=8) my about my experience with the Worcestershire GP "Out of Hours" service. This complaint was acknowledged on September 23, 2006. According to the NHS Complaint Procedure, the NHS has 25 working days to fully respond to the complaint. If they need more time, this is possible, "but only in agreement with the complainant."
The 25 working days expires today, October 30, 2006. They sent me a letter on October 25 to advise me:
http://www.aquarena-springs.com/images/nhs-complaint.gif
My consent to the delay was not requested, and no new timetable was established. The complaint became, in effect, open-ended.
I e-mailed Kath Garrard, the Complaints Manager and author of this letter, on the afternoon of October 28:
From: Craig W. Walsh
Sent: 28 October 2006 13:15
To: Garrad, Kath (Complaints)
Subject: Your Reference KG/SW/06/9/222/WALSH
Hi, Kath ---
Thank you for your letter of October 25, 2006, received by me on October 27.
You have indicated that your "investigations will take a little longer than originally anticipated" because of "unavailability of staff." But you did not give me a date when this process is now expected to be completed.
A couple of weeks ago I telephoned the Independent Complaints Advocacy Service (ICAS) --- I called them to ask if the hospital could shuffle me off to Catalyst in relation to my complaint about the security guard. (By the way, the answer is that the NHS must handle this complaint: I had to go all the way to the Health Service Ombudsman for England. They have a jurisdictional officer, Anthony Gilmour, and he confirmed that as the hospital would need to provide guards itself --- if it didn't sub-contract this service --- the hospital itself needs to deal with my complaint under the NHS Complaints Procedure.)
ICAS sent me some literature, including a "Self Help Information Pack." There's an update sheet and it indicates that there have been changes to the NHS Complaints Procedure that took place on September 1, 2006. I understand that, "the timescale for the NHS provider to formally respond in full to the complaint is extended from 20 to 25 working days from the date of receipt of the complaint. This can be extended further, but only in agreement with the complainant."
I believe that we reach the 25 working day point on Monday, October 30. You have not requested my consent to an extension: as you've not asked for my agreement I have not given it.
I am, of course, happy to be reasonable, but understandably don't like the open-ended nature of your letter of October 25.
I left a voice mail message for you on Friday afternoon.
Can you please let me know when the NHS will be in a position to respond in full to my formal complaint? Can you also please advise me if it would not be possible, at this time, to issue a partial reply?
It would be helpful for me to know which staff member (by function, not by name) is currently unavailable, and why their absence has delayed the formal response by the NHS.
As you are aware, my wife's and my experience at the GP out-of-hours service on September 23 was very distressing for us. We promptly complained in accordance with the NHS Complaints Procedure, and now await a full reply in accordance with the established timeline.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Kind regards,
Craig
She replied promptly:
From: Garrad, Kath (Complaints)
Sent: 30 October 2006 11:21
To: Craig W. Walsh
Subject: RE: Your Reference KG/SW/06/9/222/WALSH
Dear Mr Walsh,
Thank you for your e-mail.
I have asked the Worcestershire GP Out of Hours Service when they will have the information for a response to be sent to you. I will let you know the timescale as soon as I hear from them.
Yours sincerely
Kath Garrad
Complaints Manager
Worcestershire Primary Care Trust
Isaac Maddox House
Shrub Hill Road
Worcester WR4 9RW
The open-ended nature of this continued to bother me, so I telephoned Ms. Garrad. She said she'd sent the GP Out of Hours Service a message to ask when they'd be able to reply, but hadn't heard back from them yet --- and didn't know when she'd hear back from them. Although she's the Complaints Manager, she seems to be unable to compel a response from her colleagues. She asked me, curiously, what I hoped to "get" from my complaint.
I didn't know how to answer this question. If I'm perfectly honest, if Sister Susan Haines worked for me, I'd give her a written warning. If there had been other complaints, I'd give her a P45. But how the NHS handles its employees is really none of my business.
What I hope to accomplish --- to "get" --- is that Sister Haines will be re-educated on what's expected of her. If she can't treat patients with a modium of sympathy and compassion, then she should be transferred to one of the vast bureaucratic Gulags in the NHS where there is no patient contact.
I asked Ms. Garrad for the name of her boss, on the theory that he (or she) might have more clout with the GP Out of Hours Service. Ms. Garrad apparently reports directly to the Chief Executive, Paul Bates.
I spoke with Mr. Bates' PA, Annette Ballington. He, of course, was unavailable. I asked Ms. Ballington if I could put an appointment in Mr. Bates' diary so at least we'd have a definite date. Apparently he doesn't have any free time until early December.
I asked Ms. Ballington for the name of Mr. Bates' boss, and I was referred to Cynthia Bower (http://www.dh.gov.uk/PublicationsAndStatistics/PressReleases/PressReleasesNotices/fs/en?CONTENT_ID=4134513&chk=7NAIh8) at the West Midlands Strategic Health Authority. I spoke with her PA, Denise, and was told that actually Ms. Bower is not Mr. Bates' boss --- that would be his Board, of which Dr. Brian Smith is Chairman.
Denise involved Steve Hilton in this, and he called me back a little while later. He'd spoken with Ms. Garrad and apparently the formal reply to my complaint had been finalised, and was just awaiting Mr. Bates' signature. This was completely different from what Ms. Garrad had told me a few hours earlier.
I was told that this reply, via e-mail, would be with me tomorrow. We'll see if this happens.
My simple out-of-hours visit has involved:
Worcestershire Primary Care Trust -- who runs the out-of-hours service
Worcestershire Acute Hospitals NHS Trust -- who manage the hospital
Catalyst -- a private company who apparently owns the hospital, and provides the support services (guards, cleaners, catering staff, etc.)
West Midlands Strategic Health AuthorityWhat a bureaucratic, top-heavy mess. Incapable, apparenlty of even adhering to their own deadline for formally responding to a complaint.
All I wanted was someone to care about me, and to help make me comfortable while I waited for the single doctor who was on duty.
The 25 working days expires today, October 30, 2006. They sent me a letter on October 25 to advise me:
http://www.aquarena-springs.com/images/nhs-complaint.gif
My consent to the delay was not requested, and no new timetable was established. The complaint became, in effect, open-ended.
I e-mailed Kath Garrard, the Complaints Manager and author of this letter, on the afternoon of October 28:
From: Craig W. Walsh
Sent: 28 October 2006 13:15
To: Garrad, Kath (Complaints)
Subject: Your Reference KG/SW/06/9/222/WALSH
Hi, Kath ---
Thank you for your letter of October 25, 2006, received by me on October 27.
You have indicated that your "investigations will take a little longer than originally anticipated" because of "unavailability of staff." But you did not give me a date when this process is now expected to be completed.
A couple of weeks ago I telephoned the Independent Complaints Advocacy Service (ICAS) --- I called them to ask if the hospital could shuffle me off to Catalyst in relation to my complaint about the security guard. (By the way, the answer is that the NHS must handle this complaint: I had to go all the way to the Health Service Ombudsman for England. They have a jurisdictional officer, Anthony Gilmour, and he confirmed that as the hospital would need to provide guards itself --- if it didn't sub-contract this service --- the hospital itself needs to deal with my complaint under the NHS Complaints Procedure.)
ICAS sent me some literature, including a "Self Help Information Pack." There's an update sheet and it indicates that there have been changes to the NHS Complaints Procedure that took place on September 1, 2006. I understand that, "the timescale for the NHS provider to formally respond in full to the complaint is extended from 20 to 25 working days from the date of receipt of the complaint. This can be extended further, but only in agreement with the complainant."
I believe that we reach the 25 working day point on Monday, October 30. You have not requested my consent to an extension: as you've not asked for my agreement I have not given it.
I am, of course, happy to be reasonable, but understandably don't like the open-ended nature of your letter of October 25.
I left a voice mail message for you on Friday afternoon.
Can you please let me know when the NHS will be in a position to respond in full to my formal complaint? Can you also please advise me if it would not be possible, at this time, to issue a partial reply?
It would be helpful for me to know which staff member (by function, not by name) is currently unavailable, and why their absence has delayed the formal response by the NHS.
As you are aware, my wife's and my experience at the GP out-of-hours service on September 23 was very distressing for us. We promptly complained in accordance with the NHS Complaints Procedure, and now await a full reply in accordance with the established timeline.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Kind regards,
Craig
She replied promptly:
From: Garrad, Kath (Complaints)
Sent: 30 October 2006 11:21
To: Craig W. Walsh
Subject: RE: Your Reference KG/SW/06/9/222/WALSH
Dear Mr Walsh,
Thank you for your e-mail.
I have asked the Worcestershire GP Out of Hours Service when they will have the information for a response to be sent to you. I will let you know the timescale as soon as I hear from them.
Yours sincerely
Kath Garrad
Complaints Manager
Worcestershire Primary Care Trust
Isaac Maddox House
Shrub Hill Road
Worcester WR4 9RW
The open-ended nature of this continued to bother me, so I telephoned Ms. Garrad. She said she'd sent the GP Out of Hours Service a message to ask when they'd be able to reply, but hadn't heard back from them yet --- and didn't know when she'd hear back from them. Although she's the Complaints Manager, she seems to be unable to compel a response from her colleagues. She asked me, curiously, what I hoped to "get" from my complaint.
I didn't know how to answer this question. If I'm perfectly honest, if Sister Susan Haines worked for me, I'd give her a written warning. If there had been other complaints, I'd give her a P45. But how the NHS handles its employees is really none of my business.
What I hope to accomplish --- to "get" --- is that Sister Haines will be re-educated on what's expected of her. If she can't treat patients with a modium of sympathy and compassion, then she should be transferred to one of the vast bureaucratic Gulags in the NHS where there is no patient contact.
I asked Ms. Garrad for the name of her boss, on the theory that he (or she) might have more clout with the GP Out of Hours Service. Ms. Garrad apparently reports directly to the Chief Executive, Paul Bates.
I spoke with Mr. Bates' PA, Annette Ballington. He, of course, was unavailable. I asked Ms. Ballington if I could put an appointment in Mr. Bates' diary so at least we'd have a definite date. Apparently he doesn't have any free time until early December.
I asked Ms. Ballington for the name of Mr. Bates' boss, and I was referred to Cynthia Bower (http://www.dh.gov.uk/PublicationsAndStatistics/PressReleases/PressReleasesNotices/fs/en?CONTENT_ID=4134513&chk=7NAIh8) at the West Midlands Strategic Health Authority. I spoke with her PA, Denise, and was told that actually Ms. Bower is not Mr. Bates' boss --- that would be his Board, of which Dr. Brian Smith is Chairman.
Denise involved Steve Hilton in this, and he called me back a little while later. He'd spoken with Ms. Garrad and apparently the formal reply to my complaint had been finalised, and was just awaiting Mr. Bates' signature. This was completely different from what Ms. Garrad had told me a few hours earlier.
I was told that this reply, via e-mail, would be with me tomorrow. We'll see if this happens.
My simple out-of-hours visit has involved:
Worcestershire Primary Care Trust -- who runs the out-of-hours service
Worcestershire Acute Hospitals NHS Trust -- who manage the hospital
Catalyst -- a private company who apparently owns the hospital, and provides the support services (guards, cleaners, catering staff, etc.)
West Midlands Strategic Health AuthorityWhat a bureaucratic, top-heavy mess. Incapable, apparenlty of even adhering to their own deadline for formally responding to a complaint.
All I wanted was someone to care about me, and to help make me comfortable while I waited for the single doctor who was on duty.