NHS Block My Emails!

[Tomsanguish]

It is nearly 4 years since my father died.

Latest gaff is that Sir Andrew Cash OBE sent a letter listing time and amount of syringe driver set up and refills. These were incorrect according to the Medical Notes that we have!

3/10/09 Gordon Brown P.M., Sir Andrew Cash, Dame Christine Beasley CNO, Sir Liam Donaldson CMO, Andy Burnham, Minister for Health, plus other interested parties, took delivery by registered post a letter which can be viewed at 'Our Reply to Andrew Cash' under CASE POINTS at www.tomsanguish.com (http://www.tomsanguish.com) also included in the registered post was the letter from Andrew Cash and a copy of the email sent to the Medical Director who telephoned Tom's daughter 24/9/09 after she had pointed out the mistakes. (This Doctor would not agree to stand by the times quoted in Sir Andrew's letter.)

Today 9/10/09 I emailed the Sheffield Hospital concerned to advise them that I had been invited by the Marie Curie Institute to give my comments on the new LCP document that is due to be published in November.

I also asked them for any up to date comments so that they can be entered onto www.tomsanguish.com (http://www.tomsanguish.com) before this site features in a press release.

I copied in Dame Christine Beasley CNO, Sir Liam Donaldoson CMO, Andy Burnham M.P., and the Department of Health.

The emails to these ladies and gentlemen bounced back twice.

I have emailed them before to keep them up to date with developments in my father's case which featured in the Patients Association Report 27/8/09 http://www.patients-association.org.uk/DBIMGS/file/Patients%20not%20numbers,%20people%20not%20statist ics(1).pdf (http://www.patients-association.org.uk/DBIMGS/file/Patients%20not%20numbers,%20people%20not%20statist ics%281%29.pdf)
Indeed Ms. Beasley replied to me by email 4/9/09 saying that she was 'sorry that my father did not received an appropriate level of care at Sheffield's Northern General Hospital'.

So there you have it 'blacklisted', wiped off the system, like a lot of people who have experienced similar tactics used by the NHS/Government.

Are we in England? Or has our Island moved due East? Should I pay my next tax bill which helps to pay for the NHS? Would David Cameron, Leader of the Opposition introduce more transparency?

Regards.

[craigwalsh]

I don't think the NHS would block your e-mail messages. If they did I think your messages would just vanish into a black hole in cyberspace. The fact that they are bouncing back would seem to indicate that the e-mail addresses you have are wrong, or out-of-date.

From our own experience in trying to block unwanted spam messages, I know that Hotmail and Yahoo e-mail accounts (the so-called "free e-mail accounts") are very often used by spammers. If your messages contained lots of website links (also used by spammers) you may have reached a pre-determined "score" in some computer system somewhere, and may have been blocked as spam.

Can you send from another e-mail address (not Hotmail or Yahoo)? I would also try to not use lots of links to websites, etc., as these could be problematical when getting past the cyber sentries.

Please let me know if I can be of help. I deal with e-mail problems every day. Unfortunately.

[craigwalsh]

An update on this thread.

I have, in recent days, started to receive a flood of e-mail messages addressed (in bulk) to dozens of people. They relate in general to the NHS -- but are very wordy, filled with emotion, and also wander down various paths (including one quoting Churchill).

I receive enough e-mail messages in my everyday life, and did not wish to continue to receive this messages. I set about trying to stop them.

As best I can tell there is a group called the Justice in Health Network (JIHN). This group was started by Adrian Delemore. It does not have a website or any online statement of purpose, etc. -- at least none that I can find.

I received an e-mail with this description of the group:

A group of people, from all different backgrounds and all different sectors of healthcare (so - doctors and other healthcare workers, carers and patients) who share the common desire to see Justice in Health for all. The Margaret Hayward case being, as far as I can tell, the first 'major' thing that brought us all together. . . . There's nothing strange or startlng about it, no sinister reason for the Network existing. Adrian just thought it would be nice to start such a group, and purposely kept numbers small while he got himself into a position where he could officially and properly launch it.

Because the group did not use mailing list software (like Mailman) or a Google Group or forum, it was easy for others to essentially "join" the group and veer the thread of messages off into their own particular cause.

There was no list or forum moderator (a role that I humbly play here, for example) so anyone could say anything.

That works for some people, but as this was a group that I didn't want to join, I wanted to be deleted from the group mailings. I believe that Adrian has listened to my concerns, and I understand that a Google Group has now been formed and he and his group members are moving their discussion to the Google Group.

Along the way I have been surprised by the silly "clique" nature of the messages. There appears to be a lady named Rita Pal (formerly a doctor, but not currently registered at the GMC for "administrative reasons") who is accused of somehow invading the JINH group. An incredible amount of energy seems to have been spent repelling invaders. All rather silly to me.

I did a Google search on Rita Pal, and she seems to have a pattern of trying to hijack similar-sounding domain names. I have some sympathy for this, having had Coutts try to stop my own www.couttssucks.com (http://www.couttssucks.com).

I just wanted to say that I have nothing to do with JINH, Rita Pal, etc. I have no interest in being involved in this controversy, and no interest in continuing to receive a flood of unwanted e-mail messages.

This forum is merely designed as a place where folks can, if they want, post their comments (good or bad) about the NHS. I don't mean to solve anything -- I don't have the skills to even solve my own problem with the NHS. All I can offer is a place to have, hopefully, the cathartic experience of telling the world about your own encounter with the NHS. Whether or not anyone reads this is another thing.

Posting my complaint about the NHS made me feel good. And I hope it will make others feel good as well. But I know that others will continue to rant and rage against the NHS. To each their own.

[justice4all]

Once again Craig,
Thanks for making this forum and for the time you take to give an encouraging word.

The NHS rate your hospital/dentist/quack system appears to be another massaging tool, hiding the truth. They only put up with tame criticism. Just like the post treatment IpsosMori questionnaires, designed to get positive feedback or none at all, as they are electronic and do not permit human, interactive comment. The data collection is of the nature of, eg. Was the service a) Excellent b) Brilliant ? That's it ! Did you find the hospital a) Spotless b) Very clean ? No c) d) or e). Spin is Lies ! This government is all spin and it has spun into every aspect of the bureaucratic state, not least the NHS. And dirty tricks like spying and sabotage are par for the course for these sods.There's always money for such essential activities. Cyberwarfare, in their childish WW2 repeat the MI5 fantasy self-indulgence. Like the Councils spending huge amounts of Council Tax money on checking if you overload your bin or keep a parrot, with e-mail and phone taps and private eyes camped outside your house for a month. If it weren't so serious it would be hilarious.

It does help to put it down, this maltreatment, and it does help when you see you are not the only one getting treated to such indignity.

Thanks again Craig. Keep it up. It's important.

Ciao!
Justice4all

[Tomsanguish]

I haven't posted here for a while. So I thought that I would let you know that after I contacted the office of Andy Burnham regarding the fact the emails to him, the Department of Health, Chris Beasley,CNO and Liam Donaldson, CMO were not getting through and were bouncing back, a few days later the problem was resolved.

However I do not waste much time emailing these people much now BUT am happy to announce that Andy Burnham sent me his BEST WISHES instead of attending a meeting held by the Patients Association at the House of Lords 8/12/09.

Mr. Burnham along with other M.P.'s were invited to attend the meeting which brought together the relatives of all the 'victims' cited in the Patients Association Report - Patients not numbers, people not statistics.
http://www.patients-association.org.uk/DBIMGS/file/Patients%20not%20numbers,%20people%20not%20statist ics(1).pdf

However notwithstanding the attendance of some eminent Lords and Ladies the Minister for Health did not see fit to attend!

[Tomsanguish]

Continuing my thread about 'NHS Block my emails', quickly followed by my declaration that they had been unblocked when I had complained to Andy Burnham's office - I see that the Government are up to it again!

NEWS ON ONE CLICK - The One Click Group who send out excellent emails that some of you may receive - disclosed Peter Mandelson's email address last week in regards to the 'Digital Economy Bill' BUT now, any emails sent to that address, are 'bouncing back'!

You can read all about it here:

http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/

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